Lately I’m Not Feeling It

Oops, I messed up. In the interest of transparency, I double checked my numbers. There should be 2-3 90s in there. I had two notepads going and wasn’t putting everything in one place. So, this is me admitting that mistake. Still don’t believe this changes anything.

I know Ignition says it’s a 98% RTP. I would like them to show us this with some science. Charts, bar graphs, and any other accompanying data. For me, seeing is believing. Simply put, prove it.

Can you please advise where we claim the rtp on almost every game is 98%?

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That came from a discussion we had prior as well as with bovada that was rather lengthy and went on for weeks without ever questioning me stating the rtp on average was 98 or I could be mistaken and maybe it was 97 but i know that in my discussion with both casinos this number was never questioned so i must ask why this number is now being questioned? Has the numbers been changed or excluded since our last conversation on this subject? Is it fair to say that the average rtp of your slot games is above 95? Above 90? If you answer yes to either of those two then you might as well say it’s 98 because nobody here has a 90, 95 or 98’rtp average for a 10 game average or monthly, yearly or lifetime average either.

No it just adds more sessions player with yet not one rtp above the average rtp. Last time I checked you should have numbers above and below the projected average while in your instance you have 0 and I have 1 in the 23 or so sessions. But it’s Just a run of bad luck I’m certain

Average RTP is ultimately impossible to completely derive as it is based on what games you play. Not all slots have the exact same RTP, and different table games would also obviously have their own returns. I am not completely sure where any average would lie in a typical players gameplay, but I would imagine it’s not as high as 98%.

Well based on your website the house edge is 2%-10% also being the same as 90%-98% so I stand corrected as far as my statement saying that the rtp for most games is 98% and should have said an approximare 94%. Let’s go to the low end of the house edge and say that myself and the gentleman that posted his rtp’s played all games with a 10% house edge. That would mean that an approximate 11.5 games should be above 90 and an approximate 11.5 games should be below 90. That did not happen instead you had 5 games over 90 and 18 games under 90. Having only 5 games finish above 90 is not the problem here. Even when flipping a coin “0% edge, 100% rtp” it will land on one side much more than it will the opposite side when flipping a coin 23 times. The problem is this, when flipping that coin several sessions of 23 flips to each session there will be many times that it will land on heads more than it will tails and there will be many times that it will lands on tails more than it will heads. Am i wrong by saying this? Is it safe to say that if i were to flip a coin 10 sessions “1 session = 23 flips” that at least 1 session there will be more heads than there is tails? And is it also safe to say that at least 1 session there will be more tails than there is heads? Then why is it that I can look at my last 10 sessions 230 games and not have one single session that there are more games above 90% but there are all 10 sessions 230 games that have more games below 90% than and by a large amount every session. There is not much difference in a house having 0% edge and 6% edge so how can you explain the reasoning behind this.

I’m not understanding the question you are asking here?

The biggest thing that stood out to me from your screenshot wasn’t what you circled but this :arrow_down:

Yea I seen that as well but seeing that I typed a whole essay I refrained from mentioning that info to beep from writing a book

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Yeah multiple consecutive deposits today. You cant make this stuff up. How in the world can they sit there and say they want us to enjoy their games but provide consistent results as such?
$79 - 31% RTP
$158 - 39% RPT
100 - 59% RTP
78 - 48% RTP
78 - 44% RTP
100 - 23% RTP
50 - 53% RTP

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Checking the last week of activity I see you have an RTP of about 88%

Last week I had played throughout the day. I was betting $5.00 on all spins. I hit 18 total free spins features that day and 8 OUT OF THE 18 free spins features I won $0.00. RNG???

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Huh, never seen that explained that way. So basically, you have to hit the bonus to even sustain a balance.

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I guess I’m going to need this explained to me so I can understand because I’m not certain how the game can call for an overall game rtp is 95% when it states the game rtp is 45.3% which I take as being that if you don’t get a bonus the entire time game you should expect a loss of 54.7%. Now let’s get to this bonus rtp which I don’t understand at all. Seeing that you guys are always stressing that the rtp can not be calculated over a short period of time and you also go as far as saying two years and 20k plus dollars later still isn’t enough to calculate an rtp yet you won’t give an answer to what is a good enough amount but back to where I was going, since you stress that an rtp is based off a long period or numerous spins then I must interpret the bonus rtp in this situation to mean that you should expect a 49.7 % rtp or a 50.3% loss over thousands and thousands of bonuses played on this game. So that would mean that the average bonus pays you 50% of what you bet resulting in a loss of half your wager? So how does that add up to a 95% rtp again?

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I’ve lost a lot here too I stopped depositing as much as I used to

A lot of games I’ve seen 96 percent

Yes, that would be correct.

I’m not sure we actually have a slot that is 98% ??

Best you can hope for (outside of jackpots) is the regular game carries you with small wins to keep your bankroll alive, and hit semi-regular bonus spins. If either one of those things are missing, it’s a losing round.