What are player-to-player withdrawals and deposits?
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Ignition/ Bovada losing sports betting due to the corona-virus is a big hit, but add the fact that Australia has recently BLOCKED Ignition/Bovada group from being used…it is now more crucial than ever for the group to get their RNG certified by a third party…
Below is a link to the article about Ignition being blocked in Australia:
AUSTRALIAN REGULATOR ORDERS BLOCKING OF IGNITION CASINO, EIGHT OTHER SITES
Any updates on how the RNG certification is going or of Ignition/Bovada finally getting regulated by a gaming commission?
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Wao this is interesting both the post you made and knowing people to bring this up and address this issue on this post in reference to the RNG not being the same on some machines. Now regulation just ensures that there’s auditing and upgrades when needed if there’s no regulation the updates are done in house when they feel like it. I wish we get an answer from the team @moderators about what you have posted. Check out my concern on some of the machines I found where the patterns are always the same today and are not random like when I discover them and where the RTP has change as well; THE RTP was pretty fair when I found them. Now the RTP stats for slots can be found at Wizardofodds here’s the link RTP STATS AND MORE
This is a recent post about requesting updates on some of the ones I use that are still to me behaving completely different from when I found them. MY POST ABOUT MACHINES
This is what the staff has said about this topic STAFF RESPONSE TO POST
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That’s intresting and sounds cool I being thinking about that but this might be related to the new voucher options we have now; let the @moderators answer this to be sure.
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Thank you for responding…I agree with you that the slots seem to have patterns.
Does Ignition care to reply to this??
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Still awaiting an update about why Ignition/Bovada stopped hiring iTechLabs to certify their RNG???
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this poker site is a RIP OFF!!! I JUST DEPOSITED $25 joined a $7 jack pot tourney and it took my money but i never got to play IM DONE HERE!!!
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@kcclucky Im glad you agree; today it was partially good on the slots. I took a break help people on the forum got some of my winning thru a voucher withdraw to help others and when I got back to the slots and the same machines that paid got bad again; so I’ll take a break. But @shonuff37 don’t know what area your playing but whatever your playing I wish you luck; remember the casino needs money too keep running so we got it know when to play and when to take a break. Im taking a break now; reading stuff in the forum.
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Bovada/Ignition can change the RNP on their RNG because it is NOT certified. This is a fact!
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@kcclucky scary!!! that’s why I see the RNP change in real time 
I see the same patterns over and over no randomness so Im trying to guess how many spins to the good patterns and raise the bet!!!
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I feel your pain. I’ve been saying the same things lately. Something is just off here. If you read all the forums off of this site there are tons of posts about the same thing. Too many people are noticing it and some are notable poker players. I’ve been feeling like you for awhile, I should stop playing poker on this site.
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I was browsing through youtube earlier, watching a video channel all about the average days of workers in Japan. I highly recommend watching the video on the Japanese casino worker. You get to see a little behind the curtain on just what a casino is capable of doing to their machines. Now this is for an above the board licensed casino. Now imagine the horrors that Ignition is able to do to their casino, since they obviously don’t give a shit about proving their legit and at least have their RNG verified by a third party auditor. I am 100% positive that they have rigged every single game in their casino. They have manipulated their payout algorithm to pay out just enough big wins to give the false impression that we can actually win. Then their algorithm changes and give you an endless number of ‘close misses’, like with Diamond Dragon for example. It will pay a few moderate wins, on average a few 25x wins. Then, especially if you up your bet size, you are in for hundreds of 2 scatter ‘misses’ and 2 bonus ‘misses’. It ALWAYS continues this pattern until your winnings and most if not all of your bankroll have been sucked up. God help you if you cashout and withdraw your winnings. The last, I don’t know how many times, I’ve done that no matter what game I play, I’m not even able to hit a 10x win. After withdrawing I’ve had multiple 4x scatter free spins pay less than 5x.
If you read around in the forum you’ll probably see the mods replies saying ‘they follow all best practices and whatever’, but it’s been over 3 years and they still haven’t been certified by audit. At this point it’s obvious that proving their legitimacy and submitting to 3rd party verification, probably makes them piss themselves laughing every time they read about someone posting about it. They are content in ripping people off. I mean they just abandoned cash back on loses because the way they were incompetent in how they implemented it. Coming from over 20 years of IT experience, there is absolutely no way that system was that complex. Unless they hired a bunch of their employees kids and let them run the show.
I wait with baited breath for the US to get their shit together politically and allow the entire country to participate in legal, licenced, regulated, and verified gambling. If there is even a hint that we are moving in that direction, I’m sure Ignition will quite literally shit themselves and exit scam as soon as humanly possible.
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I think you are 100% right. I’ve gone through so much money on this site it’s unreal. It baits just enough to you and takes it all back. They know people who win a little will just redeposit eventually if they cash
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I believe it should become more of an issue soon. I hear Party Poker is about to open up to USA players in the coming months. If that happens there will be a massive move for many USA players. Either Ignition will certify and become regulated again or when the other sites come online it will draw them to regulated and certified sites. 4 more states in the USA just opened up to Online Poker and sites are about to go online and also with the news Party Poker coming back to USA it will force changes for sure. As for the casino… Yea I do not believe it to be actually random… and now I stick to poker. While the cards may come odd the human playing the hands make it more random than facing a dealer with Face Card Showing 82% of the time and running 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 or 6 card draw 21. I have had few issues with Ignition but yes the odds in casino seem very very off.
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I have sworn off blackjack and baccarat on this site! It is unbelievable how good the dealers run on the table games. Even hitting blackjack isn’t safe, you end up pushing. I really hope that news about party poker is true. Then it’ll be good bye Ignition.
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Party Poker is only going for Nevada and Delaware, where poker is already legalized, along with NJ. They won’t be able to share player pools, will need to fight with DOJ to allow cross boarder cooperation.
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The “RNG” is a joke. You can only be a 97% favorite so many times and lose well over the 3% here in the long run. Its a joke and they won’t certify. They completely rig hands all the time. Its just unacceptable but hey they can b/c there are degens and they offer rigged games.
The odds don’t lie but yet the odds don’t hold true. Mind boggling getting it in knowing you won’t win in the long run.
I have no problem losing! But I have an issue with the way it happens and the amount of times the odds don’t hold up
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I agree with everything you said 100%. Those 1-4 outers hit wayyyy too often.
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I have played over 40M hands online in my time. I constantly run anywhere from 8-14 points below EV on ignition. I have shared my data with plenty and they have agreed. The RNG isn’t legit. Unfortunately it is the evil we are faced with when playing on shady sites.
It is still poker and not “rigged” towards any one player. It is just setup hands to increase rake combined with anonymous tables.
They cannot deny the hard data
Since posting this ** Lost (6) hands 88%+ favorites to go along with another 4 prior to it. That’s a lot of “bad luck”. You can honestly watch it and tell it isn’t legit. It has become very sad.
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can you show me a pic of your ev graph
i have to see this
i think if i saw it i would never complain about a bad beat again.
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